Hebrews 12:9-11
Spence, H. D. M., etc.
The Pulpit Commentary - Hebrews 12:4-11
Chastisement. In this passage the writer reminds the Hebrews that although doubtless they had sustained severe trials on account of their devotedness to Christ, none of them had yet been required to seal their faith with their blood ( Hebrews 12:4 ). Other children of God had suffered much more than they ( Hebrews 11:35-38 ), and had remained faithful. For them to apostatize would, therefore, be very heinous sin. Rather they must learn to view their afflictions as the corrections of... read more
Spence, H. D. M., etc.
The Pulpit Commentary - Hebrews 12:5-10
God's discipline of his children. Continually in the New Testament, when we get into circumstances of doubt and pain, we are brought back to the rich truth and comfort to be found in the fatherhood of God. Here, as elsewhere, à fortiori argument is employed. If an earthly father, being evil, gives good gifts to his children, how much more will the heavenly Father give his Holy Spirit to them asking him? And even so, if an earthly father disciplines his children, making them do and bear... read more
Spence, H. D. M., etc.
The Pulpit Commentary - Hebrews 12:9
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us (more correctly, we once had , or, we used to have , the fathers of our flesh as chasteners ), and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? This introduces an à fortiori argument. We are reminded of the days of our youth, while we were under parental discipline, and bore with it submissively: much more should we submit to the discipline of our heavenly... read more
Spence, H. D. M., etc.
The Pulpit Commentary - Hebrews 12:10
For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. The a fortiori argument is thus continued. The discipline of our earthly fathers was "for a few days," i.e. during our childhood only, since which we have been left to ourselves; and even then not necessarily for our greatest advantage; it was only as seemed good to them ( κατὰ τὸ δοκοῦν αὐτοῖς ); it might be injudicious, or even capricious.... read more
Spence, H. D. M., etc.
The Pulpit Commentary - Hebrews 12:11
Now no chastening seemeth for the present to be joyous, but grievous (literally, not of joy , but of grief ): nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness to them which have been exercised thereby. This is a general statement with respect to all chastening, though the expression of its result at the end of the verse is suggested by the thought of Divine chastening, to which alone it is certainly, and in the full sense of the words, applicable. "Of... read more
Spence, H. D. M., etc.
The Pulpit Commentary - Hebrews 12:11
Discipline in its endurance and in its results. "Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous," etc. Two aspects of discipline, distinct yet vitally related, are here set before us. I. DISCIPLINE IN ITS ENDURANCE . "All chastening seemeth for the present to be not joyous, but grievous." All life's discipline, while we are enduring it, is painful. It is so even to sincere and saintly Christians, for: 1. The Christian is not insensible to pain. Christianity offers... read more
Spence, H. D. M., etc.
The Pulpit Commentary - Hebrews 12:11
The fruit of discipline. I. A LESSON FROM BOYISH EXPERIENCE . The discipline of earthly parents, while we are passing through it, is all pain and no pleasure. Even when exercised with wisdom and consideration, the discipline must be painful; and in many instances there is a needless harshness which increases the pain. Parents are apt to take the course of discipline which gives them the least trouble. But even harsh and stern discipline is better than indulgence, infinitely... read more
Albert Barnes
Albert Barnes' Notes on the Whole Bible - Hebrews 12:9
Furthermore - As an additional consideration to induce us to receive chastisement with submission. The argument in this verse is derived from the difference in the spirit and design with which we are corrected by God and by an earthly parent. In God everything is without any intermingling of passion or any improper feeling. In an earthly parent there is often much that is the result of hasty emotion, of an irascible temper, perhaps of the mere love of power. There is much that is inflicted... read more
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John Calvin's Commentary on the Bible - Hebrews 12:11
Verse 11 11.Now no chastening, etc. This he adds, lest we should measure God’s chastisements by our present feelings; for he shows that we are like children who dread the rod and shun it as much as they can, for owing to their age they cannot yet judge how useful it may be to them. The object, then, of this admonition is, that chastisements cannot be estimated aright if judged according to what the flesh feels under them, and that therefore we must fix our eyes on the end: we shall thus receive... read more