John Gills Exposition of the Bible Commentary - Hebrews 12:11
Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous ,.... These words anticipate an objection, taken from the grief and sorrow that comes by afflictions; and therefore how should they be for profit and advantage? The apostle answers, by granting that no affliction "seemeth" to be joyous, in outward appearance to flesh and blood, and according to the judgment of carnal sense and reason; in this view of afflictions, it must be owned, they do not appear to be matter, cause, or occasion of... read more
John Gills Exposition of the Bible Commentary - Hebrews 12:10
For they verily for a few days chastened us ,.... Which respects not the minority of children, during which time they are under the correction of parents, and which is but a few days; nor the short life of parents; but rather the end which parents have in chastening their children, which is their temporal good, and which lasts but for a few days; which sense the opposition in the latter part of the text requires: and this they do after their own pleasure : not to please and delight... read more